As a teenager we use to rummage through new old stock at The Workingmans store Dowtown San Jose, Ca... This was when the original owner was still alive. We’d find great Khaki’s made in USA from material spun here in the good ole USA... People were starting to shop malls back then for import merchandise. We as teenagers wanted great workware, especially being Union Tradesmen so we only had a few stores we shopped. Red Wing back then didn’t even have an import side of the store, they gave us a discount when we showed our Union Card... I’m 60 yrs. this is b4 all this workware became fashion. Anyways, back then if you sucked your gut in and could button the jeans, you knew you had the right size because they’d stretch to a perfect fit.. I bought these chinos and couldn’t remember how we fit them back then. A 36 waisted I bought because I’m 6’1 at 230 lbs. I fit my jeans at 35.. I had sent back the 36 because to snug I had thought. They sent me 38 because no 37’s. I was swimming in them. sent them back. Bought some Blubaughs at 35 (See my review). So I had to try one more time, the chinos in 36. Sucked my gut in, button them up and after 15 minutes if not sooner, a perfect fit.. I’ve washed them and they didn’t bounce back snug... Perfect! Need me some green Army pants now that I know Tellason’s sizeing. Hopefully they always stock Chinos, Green Army Pants, and blubauges because all you need is the basics... The ones that are in the know, know what the hell im talking about. Great freak’n Chinos!! Build a great Vietnam era Army Pant straight leg button fly. And you’ll be spot on Tellason. Stay with it